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I didn’t expect that this thread is still alive after so many months since I posted it. I would like to hereby make a conclusion to this entire furor over the legitimacy of the whole Lampe Berger thing.
First of all, my conclusion is totally made up of my o ... Continue reading »
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5 months ago
Network Marketing is the best way to launch one's business career. Refer to Robert Kiyosaki video clip on 'Why Network Marketing?' on Youtube. It provides you the platform to enter the business world, with very low start-up costs. With proper mindset, effort, and actions, you can definitely succeed.
However, most Network Marketing companies in Malaysia are either scams, or even if they're not scams legal-wise, they're either forbidden in Islam, or have weakness in terms of their products, or compensation structure, that makes it difficult for one to succeed in making money through it.
However, there are only two network marketing companies in Malaysia that has perfect products and compensation structures. Both legal and allowed in Islam, and have good business features. I don't guarantee that you can succeed with it, of course you still need to put in the right effort and strategy, but the business model does make it easier for you to succeed.
There are only THREE network marketing companies in Malaysia, that you can trust - AMWAY, BIONUTRIC/I-LINKAGE, or SUCCESS UNIVERSITY MALAYSIA. The rest are BULLSHIT. Especially LAMPE BERGER. I'm saying this, honestly, as a neutral, and as someone who's experienced and have succeeded in Network Marketing and also other businesses. Honestly, you can have my word on this.
I do know the facts and I'm experienced in the MLM and Network Marketing industry, and I'm recommending if you want to make money through Network Marketing, DO NOT JOIN LAMPEBERGER/DCHL/SYN. There are too many features about it that makes it an absolute scam. Join one of the three I mentioned above.
You can be rich from it, if you put in the right effort and strategy, but once you become rich, you've ended up ruining many people's lives.
Here's the shocker, RZ Corporation, the company running SYN/DHCL/LAMPE BERGER, is actually an illegal company. You can refer to the Ministry of Consumer Affairs website. It has been illegal for a year now. It's JB branch has been closed down, and is running illegally as we speak.
ALL THE BEST IN YOUR PURSUIT OF SUCCESS,
Motivated Entrepreneur Who Made A Million Before Age 21
2 months ago
2 years ago
The answer is pretty simple actually. One of their top high flyer is an MCA bigshot.
So now DHCL is protected by politicians and triads.
Who dares to touch them ?
2 years ago
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The MCA Connection
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Name: Winnie Lim
Age / Gender: 42,Female
Upline Duke: Arch Duke Steven Yeam
Upline Marquis: Arch Duke Steven Yeam
Current Position: Duke
Place of Birth: Kedah, Malaysia
Profession / Business / Jobs: Business Woman
Why choose LB? :This is an International Network Marketing Business. Coming from a traditional business background environment, there is no doubt this is a very smart industry offering infinite market potential and sustainability.
How have you benefited from LB ? :I used to have a very sensitive nose. After using the product, I became confident in the product and business. I joined the business to create my second success story !
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From the right, Winnie Lim,Steven Yeam,Lee and Montfort board of directors chairman Tan Sri Clifford F. Herbert
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Another pic,From the right...Winnie Lim,Steven Yeam,Tan Sri Clifford F. Herbert,Lee
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A pic from DCHL official websites.
FYI,she's from MCA and also the secretary for Datuk Ng Yen Yen (MCA Wanita).SOme DCHL/SYN members also like to use this words to CONvinced the water fish by saying:
"If Winnie Lim the secretary of Datuk Ng Yen Yen is doing this business, how wrong can this business be, sure a successful business plan, come in and cut count now."
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So Many Negative things have been posted here.Why dont u all join my direct buying company.Only required 2 friends,capital as low as RM 532.00.Income RM 684 per day max.Hurry Up.My H/P: <removed>
Yow Chuan: No free advertisement please :-)</removed>
1 year ago
im a proud member of dchl, under steady global network & i am doing fine - covering half of my investment in just a month - with the help of my uplines and network friends who are always ready to help, even if they wont get a cent out of it.
thank you DCHL for changing my life :)
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Pay 33k to get count place, after 6 month i just pay for my loans.....
where my team partners who are promise will hell & develop me to success. What i heared just 3 my upline stop joinning LB coz fedup.....
lost money
lost freind
lost time
lost everithing....
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if you sell, you'll enjoy the 20-38% profit margin.
if you get enrollment under you, you'll enjoy the profit margin plus huge company commission ranging from rm234.50 to rm5316.00 per person enrolled.and after that, you'll get commission again and again everytime your downline has activities.
but if you invest 36k, get the products but nothing about it, of course you dont get anything. if you rent a shop, bring in stocks but never open, how to make money?this company offers a chance to work your money until the money works for you endlessly, up to a stage where you can just sit back & relax & just check your statement.if you open a conventional biz for 20 years, if you choose to quit today, you'll stop earning. but not in this biz. once your network is established, the money will come to you effortlessly.but you have to build your foundation first.
there is something wrong with your team. my team is more worried about my money than me!! always calling asking whether i need their help and come to help me whenever i have problem, even when they dont get a cent out of me if i succeed. this is not a one-man show, we work as a team. why not change your team?
once you are enrolled, you are enrolled for life. (if you dont cancel in 3 months). means you are still a distributor right? hurry, move now to make your money start rolling back! email me at <-email address removed->. ill see where i can help you out. i dont get a cent also, but im willing to help you.
Yow Chuan: Sorry, no free advertising ;-)
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MLM is an opportunity! Not a given success.
For those who haven't thought about their future, do you want to work until your 60 - 70 or 80 before you retire? Do you want to work under a boss for the rest of your life struggling to pay bills and the mortgage loan or rent? Do you have dreams and desires of doing things you want before you grow too old?? Do you want to spend time with your loved ones instead of working day and night without vacation?
I've thought about all this, which is why i started out investments when i was young. DCHL is one of them, and it's proven to be my best investment yet.
Is it a scam? Well I'll tell you all this.. my investments all made back and now enjoying four figures a month income. Do you think i got scammed?
Is it unethical? I'm making money through this business.. I shared this opportunity with my friends and now they all make money with me too.. Imagine if I kept this from them.. I wouldn't think they would like me very much today. Except I shared with them what i believed was a good OPPORTUNITY and i let them decide for themselves. Some joined some didn't, we're all still good friends. Then again, my friends who didn't join are struggling and need our financial help now.. sigh
It is an OPPORTUNITY to create a passive income. You don't just put money in and sit back and hope it'll make money out of nothing. I worked hard in the beginning. I didn't give up when i felt like it was difficult. Now i'm happier than ever with my family and friends enjoying life together. We don't have a boss, no manager no one to tell us what we have to do just to pay the bills. Life is great.
Why won't you sleep at night? I sleep so good because i know I am helping others not just for financial freedom, but also TIME freedom. Time is more valuable than money. I want to spend a lot of time with my family and loved ones. Having a job that requires 8am to 7pm is not something I want for my future.
People invest into the business hoping for the same thing. They will work hard to achieve this. DCHL hasn't lied to me. I am achieving my dreams of success.
I can't be skeptical my whole life. I need to take a chance. So now i have not even looked back.
So again, I am making money here. I have shared it with my friends this opportunity, and they are now too making money (some still making back their investments). I help others in the business and I don't force anyone to do this against their will. I hope I am still ethical.
It doesn't matter what others tell you, think for it yourself.
Scam? I can be your answer.
And it is only ethical to share what's good with others.
This is just my opinion of what a unethical scam is.
Think about it..
Hope you all take care
Edmond
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1 year ago
When comes to business, you need to workout, we are not going to build out network forever. When we have enought partners, We will open out outlets in popular shoping complexes and all the distributor will be given a share from the sales, Don't you want it?
The most popular "cable tv" service in Malaysia is a product of MLM! You people are being MLM product comsumer everyday.
Mark-up? A can drink Cost RM 0.17 sen but we buy at RM 1.70 each because the distribution expenses and promotional expenses, the same can if in a PUB or Club will cost RM 15.00 you didn't even question that.
So cool. Non of our product will cure the sick la you BS coconut... We relife those. If you don't know then don't talk.
If you cant do, why invested RM 36k? Go for RM2.5k... If you don't want to do then fine, we respect you. Don't just F##k around..
TC Dude...
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May I know how and where I can sell out the stocks? Really appreciate if you can help me. thanks
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Just go to some of the meeting then you will know lo....
12 months ago
However, it's common for these meetings to be filled with lots of elements of brainwashing.
Just remind yourself constantly to stay neutral and do not make any decisions until you are in a better state of mind.
11 months ago
I’m writing on behalf of the parents who wish to send their children to IPTA IS TO STUDY, & NOT DO LB
For your informations, I’d met with many SYN member and I’d been to the room of the member who INVESTED RM30,+++. You know what I see The STUPID LAMPs are all around ! Let me ask you all, if Lampe Berger “REALLY REALLY GREAT, FANTASTIC, YES!�, then why this member couldn’t sell even one of his products?
A businessman/woman will only sell products in the market if the products is really good. As a result, that member has to struggle, work part time for his life expenses.
Tuan-tuan dan puan-puan sekalian,
Parents kite kerje susah payah, simpan duit kat bank, EPF, SOKSO etc utk siape? Utk masa mrk tua nanti la, ataupun antar anak-anak ke IPTA. Tapi, manu tau pulak ada SCAM kat IPTA. SYN pulak ajar mrk balik utk TIPU DUIT SIMPANAN ayah/mak mrk.
SAYA SUDAH BUAT BANYAK SIASATAN, dan ada member SYN ckp,�ORG MELAYU SIMPLE-MINDED PUNYA, SENANG NAK PANGGIL MRK JOIN…HEHEHE…�
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11 months ago
Just look back at some of these simple scenarios in our life...
The 1st time we rode a bicycle...we fall.We didnt blame the bike.We blame ourselves for not knowing how to ride it.
When we get bad grades in exams.We didnt blame the teachers or the school.We blame ourselves for not studying hard.
But after trying hard to improve plus a never quit attitude we achieved all that.
Suddenly when YOU "fail" in this business, you start blaming others for your "failure". There's nothing wrong with the company, products or the business model. Its just that you have stop trying.
Most of us enter into an MLM business with a mindset of a employee.
If you set your mind same as a business person would treat their business, I can assure you that you will not fail.
Actually you did not fail.. YOU JUST STOP TRYING.YOU'RE being a QUITTER.
Try being a quitter in what you're doing now and see where you'll end up?
And try quitting your life.... you'll sure be dead!
I'm sure some readers will say its not the same... but actually it is!
And for those negetive comments.. please get your facts right before posting.
11 months ago
I agree with the points that you have. No businesses can succeed on auto-pilot mode.
Your analogies are very true too.
But when you ask my readers to get their facts right, I cannot blame for not getting it because you have not published any facts in your commentary.
For starters, I recommend you read this: http://www.pyramidschemealert.org
After reading that, please refute the "facts" that we don't already know.
For the record, I am not a member of any MLM companies. However, I have enough experiences (or should I say bad experiences) with the MLM industry to identify the rotten apples.
10 months ago
what about insurance agencies - what is your opinion comparing MLM with Insurance companies?
10 months ago
Aku sangat setuju dengan pernyataan Think.
Ape2 bende yang kite buat kalau kite give up, kite tak akan kemane.
Try to qive up ur life tengok ape akan jadi.
My frens,
A winner never quit. A quitter never win!
Kepada ex-SYN @ SGN,
The journey is not easy myfrens but when u keep on going, somehow somewhere u will see a shining star.
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I've met a lot of people who are unhappy after they have dealt with these MLM brainwashers. None of them had anything nice to say. All regretted that they put in so much time and money into this.
To those who are brainwashers, shut the f**k up.
To others, stay away.
9 months ago
SYARIKAT YANG TELAH DIBATALKAN LESEN 2008
RZ Corporation Sdn Bhd AJL931127 31.07.2008
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yeah, dun simply listen to your upline...it's all cheated!!!......i'm one of the victim. From the beginning, i still a student in local university. One day, one of my so call " friend" ask me to attend one seminar. According to her, this is a great opportunity to listen to the talk. The speaker is a very smart and successful person in life. Surely he will bring a lot of benefit to us. But she didn't mention wat is the purpose of the seminar. She didn't gave much time for me to consider and straight away arrange transportation for me and some of my friends to attend that seminar. At the moment, i believe my friend that the seminar will beneifit me. But, after that, i realise that this is a MLM business and so call network marketing. At the time, i didn't feel any interested in that business, but believe me, please don't ever go to that kind of seminar. U will easily be influenced and brainwashed. They came from a large group. There are a lot of members there, sure u will be catched. This is my real experience. After join the LB, i feel uneasy and disagreed with the tactics they are using. They usually use the relationship and trustee between you and your friends to win the business. After join about 1 month, i feel guilty, i can't even convince myself to do the business. I feel that is like a cheated games.........The money that i invested is gone and cannot refund anymore.............So, friends, please think twice before you make a decision. I treat it as one of my biggest mistake in my life and i learn from it.
7 months ago
and it takes a lots af sacrifice to get out of the hell. lost frens, time, money and etc. and when you recall what you had done previously you'll feel very guilty to your frens and if you recall what had you said previously when you are brainwashed, you'll feel like want to beat urself. you can only realised the truth after long painful spell.
and when you are out of the hell, you feel very sorry to see those people who are newly cheated and feel sympathy for those who are argueing with you when you telling the truth on how dangerous this thing can be... you feel all these coz you had saw everything about it...
god bless u all... be rational...
7 months ago
For example, Cosway , Amway and Elken can call is the tranditional and can earn money MLM business. Because they really selling the product! But for LB, is just cheat! WHat they sell? Lamp? Or a Bullshit Plan? And the person inside is so bad... The guy was damn bad.... Cheated women.....All are playboy! LB is just a cheated club!
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abis je dngr cter..diorg followup blk..ajak naik tngk HQ kalau x percaya...perghhhh...bestnyer tempat ni..semua org pakai baju kot...tengk SPA lagi...so kwn2 baik ni percaya ler biz kwn2 baik yg ajak dulu ni mmg betul....sok lusa pump 2.5k...x sampai 2 mggu ajak amik level yg top...ayat baikk jer..KO KALAU NAK RS MCM AKU KO MSK 30KNYER...CROWN TUE....mana aku nak cr duit...ALAHHHH...CMNI KO PERGI JE BUAT PERSONAL LOAN...ALAHHH 30K JE...DLM MS 4-5 BLN KO DAH ABIS BAYO...APA KO NAK TAKUT...SBLN KO DPT 20K TU....
sekarangggggggggg............mmbr baik pun dah x jumpa...lari sana-sini....stock myk beribu2 kat rumah jer....groups yg kata nak tlg pun hampehhh...dah ler berhenti keje..igt nak buat full time..last2 tlg keje wiring dr mmbr2....
IGT LAR KWN2 SEMUA...SGN CKP SYN PARASIT...SYN PUN CKP SAMA JE AYATNYER...DIORG NI DAH TERPESONG DARI MATLAMAT SEBENAR LAR...TU SEMUA AYAT STANDARD YG KORANG AKAN DENGAR KALAU KORANG JUST NAK PERGI DNGR MAMAT2 SYN N SGN NI CTER...X PRCAYA KORNG PG LER...PRGI X PER JGN MSK DAH LERR...
LA NI AKU DENGAQ KECOH2 KAT MELAKA LAK...SYN DTG BUAT GERAK GEMPUR...
7 months ago
p/s: no free lunch in this world... upline help even not taking a cent out of it? that is so bullshit... but u never know if you are the one who get the help... people beside u who care about u will know... that's the nature of human... weird right... hehehe...
6 months ago
semuanya kena ada usaha yang berterusan... kawan awak tu mmh dah tau dia kena usaha then baru dapat.. mmg tak mustahil boleh dapat 20k sebulan sebab saya dah dapat 21k dlm 2 minggu.
tapi ni bukan skim cepat kaya sentiasa dapat banyak.. mana2 biz mmg ada naik turun... tapi kalau usaha berterusan kita mesti boleh berjaya... biasalah kerana nila setitik rosak susu sebelanga... tak semua org seperti yang carbon katakan.
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I heard bout this SYN 2 years ago..but i dont feel to join their group..not very necessary to use their product...they just provoked you with a nice dream that you may not even dreaming...only when you can do as what they do you can be succesful...you need to build ur "NETWORK" to become success..ARE YOU SURE TO JOIN??? think carefully....i already do investigation bout this biz...you need 5 thing but the main is BIG CAPITAL...everything cause money...the leaders or any title they hold do not help you to increase ur money but they just give their support to ensure u workhard to build ur network to bring money for u and also for them..u will generate money for them...U will be their "balaci" to make their richer than u...yes many ppl say joining MLM is not easy..dat rite...but if they "SYN or SGN" doesn't provoked ppl with their "SloGAN -FINICIAL FREEDOM, ACHIEVED UR DREAM AS WHAT THEY ACHIEVED" just showing the nice style,drive a sporty car...nobody will follow them if just based on the product...now they attack KULIM,Kedah...a lot of ppl (gov sector) joining their network...the promise was the same...WE WORK AS A TEAM>>JUST INVITED UR BEST FRIEND TO JOIN US>>ANYTHING WE WILL HELP U BUT NOT MONEY>>>everybody sorry to say Malay was blind with their promise and short term achievement...IF U can't bring a ppl to join ur network..it nothing u can earn...THEY NOT MENTION BOUT THIS CLEARLY....THEY just say...once the network is bigger the company will stop recruiting ppl and open a new biz..selling the oil n part for the lampe...u will get an profit from it...just that..but now it almost 7-8years...still recruiting ppl...HOW?...only with HEAD HUNTING U WIL BE RICH ONLY IN FEW MONTHS...AGREE?????
I HATE WITH THIS SYN MEMBERS....ALWAYS CHEAT EVERWHERE....
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Network Marketing is the best way to launch one's business career. Refer to Robert Kiyosaki video clip on 'Why Network Marketing?' on Youtube. It provides you the platform to enter the business world, with very low start-up costs. With proper mindset, effort, and actions, you can definitely succeed.
However, most Network Marketing companies in Malaysia are either scams, or even if they're not scams legal-wise, they're either forbidden in Islam, or have weakness in terms of their products, or compensation structure, that makes it difficult for one to succeed in making money through it.
However, there are only two network marketing companies in Malaysia that has perfect products and compensation structures. Both legal and allowed in Islam, and have good business features. I don't guarantee that you can succeed with it, of course you still need to put in the right effort and strategy, but the business model does make it easier for you to succeed.
There are only THREE network marketing companies in Malaysia, that you can trust - AMWAY, BIONUTRIC/I-LINKAGE, or SUCCESS UNIVERSITY MALAYSIA. The rest are BULLSHIT. Especially LAMPE BERGER. I'm saying this, honestly, as a neutral, and as someone who's experienced and have succeeded in Network Marketing and also other businesses. Honestly, you can have my word on this.
I do know the facts and I'm experienced in the MLM and Network Marketing industry, and I'm recommending if you want to make money through Network Marketing, DO NOT JOIN LAMPEBERGER/DCHL/SYN. There are too many features about it that makes it an absolute scam. Join one of the three I mentioned above.
You can be rich from it, if you put in the right effort and strategy, but once you become rich, you've ended up ruining many people's lives.
Here's the shocker, RZ Corporation, the company running SYN/DHCL/LAMPE BERGER, is actually an illegal company. You can refer to the Ministry of Consumer Affairs website. It has been illegal for a year now. It's JB branch has been closed down, and is running illegally as we speak.
ALL THE BEST IN YOUR PURSUIT OF SUCCESS,
Motivated Entrepreneur Who Made A Million Before Age 21
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Have you ever come across an MLM company that gurantee you can money even if you doing nothing? None. Have you read books? Read books from successful people. They are the proof that the system works. If you listen to a loser, you will be always be a loser. Listen to a winner, you will be always be a winner.
I am not endorsing any MLM business. MLM is just another way of making money. You can find good people and bad people in any business. You can find nice mamak restaurant that the waiters treat you like king and you also can find a mamak restaurant that treat you like a piece of shit. You can fuck that latter but can you said all mamak restaurant is the same? NO. Use your brain. Don't use your ass when thinking.
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go DD's
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Lamp Berger products(i.e. limited design lamp & Oil) Selling at HALF PRICE
not asking you to join MLM as i am not a member now...
please do not hesitate to contact 012-6145 788
Thanks !